I think they are nuts.
Here is a chart of their current forecast.
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The difficulty in a general forecast for the country, of course, is that the fall in house prices across the country varies enormously. The Case-Schiller 20 data below h/t Calculated Risk (CR) shows more than a 10 to 1 variation in house price deterioration from state to state.
I like to base my forecasts on nation wide average and median data, so I tend to look at data such as the NYT updated chart below from the Ritholtz blog which shows about another 20%-30% fall in average house prices before reverting to the pre 2000 "norms"
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The rest of this post will focus on more chart data backing up mybelief that housing prices will continue to fall for some time -- probably for a few years. The factors causing the continued drop in prices include:
- Excessive household and bank debt
- High and rising unemployment
- Large inventories of unsold houses
Below are a few charts presenting some of the data that I find convincing.
The first chart below is a long term macro view of housing vs income (Ritholtz.) This is a variation of the "mortgage should not be more than x times income" data looked at historically. Clearly, the ratio became badly skewed in the early 2000's.
There is usually a tendency for overshoot in all "mean reverting" phenomena, so I suspect the curve will move towards about 3.8 or so from the current ratio of about 4.4, for a further drop of about 15%-20%.
![](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjt1le_741-WJiNVbnruO7xG_0RHjU37H2Rms9fZN1W0iVh5Fw3hf6A32F9yLZjXB6M5IcwRc8mYXDkYsKGlX9Rh_P0pGX7b-8FvCnxWthUk528e2TjD73iEMUVauUc15RllGu8SIKq17lC/s640/medianhousepriceincome.jpg)
_________Data from Ned Davis Research_____
Interest rates, sales and inventory
The most recent sales and inventory data is not very encouraging: 30 year mortgage rates are at their lowest rate since pre WW2
![](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhMotQLJZtpHEu9vppuS-nNDo9wXEW4Z23TYy51XBShLzDGDhkK1QTo2lg19j4rZVF6Fp7NMDBYHLcRz7IKfru5FNZRZX9qCwlyAha9dSRo83Dlc-MTzz3jdGIBx_x3kTrgj1MEbGxVMIjE/s640/30yrmortgage.jpg)
Nevertheless, houses are not selling
Below are existing home sales (CR) -- back to 1994 levels. Sales of about 4 million units/year.
![](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh797LH4YgGF1Dnd23j3OQsH7wUX7Iti4rioeHM5hpHYfjDJnmk17SMyPW5721eNSZhCgg7vMTPq1N3M3UexzCeaCBw1EZ7NAMXpThaacG2Ux3bvDqFHy1Lfz5Xa2llpSqeft1DI5XTWSQC/s640/crexisthomesales.jpg)
And new home sales -- at pre 1964 levels of about 300,000 units/year
![](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjOEQaqfwRZh5kL0nNJP16gQN40jCCjolb-1gKaAkDkdkEfZ9Oalzef9lR5vJsRjSj5WTHHOncyzXz1ynNhxqGflcavggz_dufX_sOOjPfd7jiQW6sG3v6m2Z3mMzgUoJFka-SKdCJOwRwS/s640/CRnewhomesales.jpg)
And "Months of Supply" of existing housing inventories are at near record highs
![](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjUidXuWS9lwTLFgdcOCKrbCixRIqYUM-_wSQJOx6i1IL33ZqBXy2zh6OuhBwUaTwEYvqYkyK9oTxTBrqp8xQustAvt-t4EJkTNTKVNjirwz2aXgN4fvxIRHeBJJtiNve5592cTB2wh4H6w/s640/crexisthomemthssupply.jpg)
As are existing home unit inventories of about 4 million units
![](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgSWyt6_t6i1psjPu1qp2MZT5l9ivNaFLpSWDzBM8rlAZ7yXFNzGPebKeyUCq3_T1joqJk3n0nsW-Kq_xGoLSPz9c1eE37kdPNY032LLzMBH_S-65NamBbrpUmlcOwPQX3Wbo72vQ9oodKD/s640/existinghomeinventory.jpg)
Building contractors are nearly an extinct species -- witness new housing starts
![](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhK3uRz117mhRZ5EeXtW85XTYU8t50CgpOD2o8Gpvrn_FPb3N-8JlfYiVJIN6XMsT4tANY46YXH9NHVc7GqBMiq4tyBq8j-CxuZonCIVvkntQy_HKa4l6XfUfPOLyNW1_nQbEUE0lOURdWC/s640/crhousingstarts.jpg)
And they show no sign of life -- witness applications for building permits
With the sampling of data above and the delinquent mortgage data below -- (Note that 14% of mortgages is about 7 million units)
![](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjKXH6hRqFFbcgdvQgACmFiRBmirVg5V5BVz57ZT7Up2f6LGepxz9Rp7k4oofyuPY9mNur0RbvIbUiXiKmvHksIgh7r2sIvYAtP8LmpaONBZX-H8s1DGryvEX569zmfGjHtfUNOkjgLhxxh/s640/percentmortggedelinquencies.jpg)
And bearing in mind that this "shadow inventory" of 14% of delinquent mortgages (approximately 7 million houses) are not yet on the market, I cannot imagine how house prices will rise unless the federal government steps in with some massive, yet to be identified program.
In summary the housing sales/inventory picture looks something like this:
- Sales rate (existing houses) about 4 million houses/year
- Current housing inventory for sale (existing houses) about 4 million houses
- "Shadow inventory" (delinquent mortgages) not yet on market in the region of 7 million houses. Most of these mortgages will default -- about 60% (4 million houses) are already more than 60 days delinquent.
- Putting it all together, there is in the region of two years worth of housing inventory across America. The "norm" is about four to six months.
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